Churches are now being torched, four at last count. I believe more churches will be torched, stoned, graffitied, sullied, picketed, etc, for as long as the use of the word 'Allah' by the Catholic church issue is not resolved to the satisfaction of Muslims in this country. Note that Muslims, in Malaysia include not just Malays, but also non-Malay Muslims, Indonesian, Bangladeshi and other foreign workers as well as an increasingly large overseas student population.
The description of Malays being comprised of all these groups in Malaysia is not a cop-out, but helps me with emphasis, as quite contrary to the view of Datin Paduka Marina Mahathir, who DOES NOT understand NOR represent the majority of Malays (we don't understand or represent her either), THE MAJORITY OF MALAYS ARE NOT HAPPY WITH THE MISUSE OF THE WORD ALLAH BY THE CATHOLIC CHURCH!
Unlike Datin Paduka Marina, I'm not claiming to represent the majority of Malays, but am conveying their "whispered screaming", via gossip at kenduris, from Kuala Lumpur to Langkawi through to the organising of protests by Malay and Muslim NGOs that do formally represent the majority Malay view. As pro-tem VP of the Malaysian Association of Youth Clubs (MAYC), I have also been approached by other organisations to join them in protest. (We've declined... for now...)
Now, there has been calls for calm from the Malay 'leadership'. Unfortunately, Malays may choose not to listen to the same leadership that has continuously failed to defend their rights or to correct past wrongs against them. Whilst non-Malays leaders who insult Malays, calling us 'Pendatang' say, are allowed to remain in power, Malays are expected to weather escalating insults, with one mainstream newspaper recently happily questioning our very existence!
Now we see even the opposition so-called 'Islamic' party, PAS, dithering, projecting confused statements in a pathetic attempt to gain political mileage out of the issue! What Malays want is LEADERSHIP in addressing this issue, not posturing for votes! To also then have so called Malay 'thought leaders' like Marina persist with liberal drivel when the matter has past the point of her comprehension of the Malay mind and sociological history adds insult to injury.
Malay history is punctuated by incidents of violence, with the common theme leading up to such being the continued denigration of the race simply due to our good nature. No majority ruling race has happily allowed for the culture of other races to bloom other than this country ruled by Malays. Also, in no other country has everything been shared so equitably, as even in the USA, for all the hype over Obama, the political and economic leadership is still overwhelmingly white.
As any mention of past Malay physical violence in the face of our continued denigration will be labelled 'racist', let us look at recent 'non-violent' history:
When Malays exercised electoral 'violence' against their UMNO leaders during PRU-12, throwing BN leadership out of 4 states and severely weakening it in 1 other, the message sms-ed by the DAP leadership,"... don't provoke the Malays...", worked well to halt the momentum towards Malay physical violence. However, the denigration of Malays has neither ceased nor been reversed, and if anything, has continued to escalate as many began to forget...
E.g., Malays are still dissatisfied with their reduced quotas at local universities, whilst non-Malays in their quest for 'equality' remain uninterested in the reasons why Malays need them. MOST MALAY STUDENTS HAVE NO-WHERE ELSE TO GO OTHER THAN PUBLIC UNIVERSITIES WHILST NON-MALAYS CAN GO PRIVATE! The result is, now, many otherwise university-bound Malays are on the streets, hungry, angry and with the intelligence to organise...
And for the Catholic Church to then venture down the silly path of robbing Malays of the exclusive use of the word Allah... Malays may be lobbing molotov cocktails at all churches indiscriminately, but this is only fair. It is not just the Catholic church that is responsible for this Malay anger, but also the Protestant and Evangelical (that have no use for Allah, to them, a pagan moon-god) for not joining ranks with Malays against the Catholic stand...
Soon...
- Malays will figure out that it is not just the fault of the churches, or the Christian heirarchy for robbing us of Allah, but the fault of all Christian congregations for letting their religious leaders continue to insult us.
- Malays will figure out that now that they're in for a penny, might as well go for the pound by attacking Hindu temples for their original insults towards Malay communities by claiming the 'historical right' to build anywhere.
- Malays will believe since many non-Malays were sitting idle by the side allowing Malays to be insulted, maybe they should be reminded to that they are condoning these insults.
- Malays in organised mobs will turn on our leaders for being so limp in their defence of our rights.
- By then it would be too late, as even intelligent Malays will figure out that as we're being accused of being racists anyway by the ungrateful children of 'Pendatang' in this country, might as be racists... the worst kind of racists...
Am I advocating violence? No I am not. I am saying that Malay violence is inevitable, at least if the current trend of apologising for Malay anger rather than addressing it continues. And in this case, Christian dogma does ring true, one reaps what is sown. The seeds of discord had been sown in this country for far too long in the guise of quest for 'equality'. And so it comes to pass that the road to hell is lined with 'good' intentions, or rather, pretentious excuses.
As for me, a rational educated Malay that Marina Mahathir assumes to know all about, there is little to do but sit back and protect what I can from the violence that will come... and pray... to Allah Subhana-Wa-Ta'ala... the correct, singular and unique one...
220 comments:
«Oldest ‹Older 201 – 220 of 220Dear all,
I think I generally agree with what the writer said, of course there were 1 or 2 wrong points here and there.
I'm a malay, muslim but non an umno member nor a member of any political party. So many angry comments were directed at the writer but I think that some of the comments were wrong as well bordering on rascism and bigotry.
Too many examples to cite.
To Chin Chin, you obviously are not loyal to this country at all. Just because we have 'problems' in our country, do you think that migrating to another country is the answer?
From your name Chin Chin, I gather that you're a Chinese M'sian. Perhaps, went to SJKC and enjoy watching local news or advertisements in Mandarin in our local tv stations such as RTM, TV3, NTV7 or 8TV.
You think that you can have all these in USA, Australia or UK? I visited Aistralia 2 times and their tv channels like ABC, 7, 9 and 10 do not have any programs in other languages except for English.
Only SBS tv channel has imported programs (films/dramas) from Europe and Asia, but local Australian programs are all in English, except for some daily local news in other languages. Ads? All in english.
This is despite Australia having the largest Greek and Italian community anywhere in the world outside both Greek and Italy respectively. And, not even a single Greek or Italian school over there!
Compared to us in M'sia, how lucky you guys are that the Malay majority allow and tolerate all these and we accept all these with an open mind.
Even in Indonesia, CNY was only recognised as a public holiday when the late Gus Dur was the president, more or less about 5 years ago.
My point is people, the Malays as the majority in M'sia have given you guys so much starting from CITIZENSHIP and rights to own lands and properties from as early as 1957.
The citizenship was given despite some of your ancestors (both Chinese and Indians) can't even speak proper Malay, which is the national language of this country since before independence.
You want to apply for US citizenship? You can try your luck if your spoken or written english is just like many of the elder Chinese and Indians here in M'sia.
Only in M'sia that you can have your own chinese or tamil schools until now, separate from the national schools, watch mandarin and tamil news on national tv, have public holidays for CNY, Deepavali, Christmas etc, retain your cultural names (unlike Indonesia and Thailand).
Remember, free citizenship is given to your ancestors in exchange for agreeing to recognise the Malay sultans and the special rights of the malays and other natives of the land.
You start questioning our rights like scholarships, malay reserve lands, Islam as the official religion then it is only right that we question your right of citizenship.
Our rights are all enshrined in the constitution but at the same time, we do not deny your rights to live here peacefully, earn a living, own properties, speak and practise your cultures and religions and also the right to vote even in 1955.
Despite Islam as the fficial religion, our forefathers did have the good insight to phrase our Rukunegara where the first tenet says "Kepercayaan kepada Tuhan". This is as a gesture of respect to Buddhists, Hindus and Christians, Sikh etc even before 1957.
So, let's live in harmony and don't start questioning our rights.
Again, what's wrong in using the word Tuhan in your Malay bible?
A Malay bible for a supposedly Malay Christians/prospects should use a Malay translation of God, which is Tuhan.
Allah, as some of you said, means God in Arabic so it is more suitable for an arabic bible. Right? Not a malay version I should say.
Manoq Damai '89
Hey, wake up la bro. You are just making yourself a clown by writing such blog. This issue does not affect the world at all, but only to those narrow minded and stupid fool like you. Idiot!!!!!
Before I started blogging....(knowing it was a very powerful tool) set some rules for myself.
Everything I write about must come from the heart...and more importantly must always evoke thought to change or positivity. That is always my intention.
However what is the intention here? Passion is like a double edge sword. You have the ability to enroll people into your ideas...however are the ideas leading to benefit ones lives or to create animosity and anger?
Though not everyone agrees with Marina Mahathir.....they understand her intentions are always about the people and their well being.
Why is this writer coming from scarcity? Allah teaches us to come from abundance, appreciate, love and respect everyone.
I will share a quote by Marina Mahathir which is all inspiring.
"God does not belong to us, we belong to God"
As a Muslim, if you pray and in our mind body and soul believe and have faith...why should I be so angry and concerned if someone else is using the word Allah. By others using the word Allah...they are not taking anything away from ME as a MUSLIM, they are giving themselves and I a better understanding of each other so that we can harmoniously live as a nation.
Lets all keep each other in our prayers....its starts with me, my family, my community, my nation, my world.
I seriously can't believe what I'm reading here, especially your five points on what the 'majority' might do. You have portrayed them to be so dumb when they are not!! Shame on you!!
Sigh...
Please put your education to good use and start thinking!
You are the most racist, bigoted Malay it is my sad experience to come across! There is nothing "restless" about your "musings" which is just a load of crap and warped, shallow thinking on your part.
Forgetting about this "Allah" controversy for the moment, your contend that most Malays have nowhere to go except public universities. Are you for real? The opposite you must know is true: most non-Malays/Bumiputeras have some 5% chance of getting into a local university, so, to those families here who can afford it, they have to sent their kids to overseas for such graduate education - they have no other choices! To those who can't afford overseas studies - and there are thousands here - where do they go?
"Malays may be lobbing molotiv cocktails at all churches indiscriminately, but this is only fair" you said. Do you know the meaning of "indiscriminate" and you called yourself an "educated Malay" and not advocating violence? I don't think you are real unless you show yourself!
Your comments are deliberately provocative and deliberately done to stir up shit, and it's a wonder you are not in Kamunting now - unless, as I said, you are not real, but just a Trojan Horse deliberately planted here to stir up emotions and discord!
Any more comments on your crap is just a waste of time!
if this was really about Allah.. then by fire bombing the churches wouldn't that be going againts yr teaching..? no.. this is about control.. ppl like u & the Grining Twins used anything u can to get in power and stay in power.. a real statesman wouldn't go this low..! you are a Racist..! don't try to fool yourself by say otherwise..! even in Islam thats wrong..! but then again u aren't really following yr religion are u ? its not the religion that at fault here.. its ppl like u that give it a bad name..!
p.s. Marina is way way a better person then u will ever be..!
u're rotten to the core..!
p.s read this to learn something...http://aljazeera.com/news/articles/39/Prophet-Muhammads-promise-to-Christians.html
Many people who commented thought (mistakenly)that Akram was not as smart or rational or as educated as he claimed. Well, he is smart alright, because, no matter what, he managed to pass out of Imperial College and no idiot can do that no matter how much "affirmative action" the Malaysian Government can give.
One commentator said:- "You DO have the power to prevent but you CHOOSE to sit back and let it slide!"
The reason why Akram "choose" to sit back and let it slide is because after living among the Malaysian Chinese all his life, he learned the meaning or value of the Chinese word for "crisis", which is a compound of two words..."danger" & "opportunity" So in every crisis, there is danger as well as opportunity.
Akram from his post seems to want, hope for, relish, or in his own words "predict" (which is actually forbidden in Islam as Islam forbids foretelling the future)the certainty of the impending violence to come, and then "let it slide" so that in that 'danger' there will be "opportunity" for him, and others like him, who wish to rise to the top of the UMNO heap, by no other way, but by way of these "opportunities" that the "danger" give.
So, folks, Akram is smarter than you think.
Do you realize most of Christians using the word Allah are from East Malaysia? And those people might very well be your equivalent i.e. the bumiputeras of Sabah and Sarawak. Look around, are there many of those so-called equivalents in YOUR public universities? WHO exactly is being robbed in broad daylight??
Dear Akhramsyah:
I hope you can give me some advice on a small matter that my Swiss friends have inquired me about, you being an IC graduate, big-name dad and all, compared to me, a lowly local college graduate.
You see, the Swiss overwhelmingly imposed a national ban on the construction of mosques minarets last November. Their justice minister said the result “reflects fears among the population of Islamic fundamentalist tendencies.” Personally, I am totally in disagreement with the Swiss referendum - it stinks of bigotry and racism. Perhaps the predominantly non-muslim Swiss don't have a constitution like ours that enshrines the freedom of practising one's religion, I don't know. Still, since the non-muslim population is 94%, I guess they have the political might to ram this unholy decision down the throats of the 4% muslim citizens.
What I hear and read from blogs, especially from the muslims, is they want to appeal and fight this decision, persumably in court. I don't know the Swiss judicial system but I hope they have a High Court, you know, just like we have in Malaysia.
Now, this is my concern: the thing is, I am sacred the extreme right, the bigots, the racists, perhaps the educated but misguided christians, will be aggrieved if there is a court appeal for judicial review of this shit of a decision; they may want to torch the 150 mosques or prayer rooms in Switzerland, especially if their wanna-be politicians say it is only fair to do so. Seeing here you are one of our wanna-be leaders that said " Malays may be lobbing molotov cocktails at all churches indiscriminately, but this is only fair", should we advice the Swiss extremists to do the same there? I mean, burning places of worship, like the mosques with the minarets they don't like in Switzerland.
I don't have the Swiss extreme right's email right now presently but I hope you can google it. If you do send them an email, please CC to me. Or even better, post your advice in your blog so the whole world can see; the Swiss bigots will call you a hero.
"Malays are still dissatisfied with their reduced quotas at local universities, whilst non-Malays in their quest for 'equality' remain uninterested in the reasons why Malays need them. MOST MALAY STUDENTS HAVE NO-WHERE ELSE TO GO OTHER THAN PUBLIC UNIVERSITIES WHILST NON-MALAYS CAN GO PRIVATE! The result is, now, many otherwise university-bound Malays are on the streets, hungry, angry and with the intelligence to organise..."
I refer to your quote above.. hey dude. you think most people are stupid like you.. most malays who are good have been screened and sent to overseas after form 5.. the ones who are left behind are basically third class stupid malays in public universities.. if they are no good , then they can't get into uni lah.. you mean what all malays must get entrance to uni irrespective of their quality ? tell me , in your JPA scholarship, only 1% are non malays and dudes like you, son of minsters also get JPA, how can?
and non malays can go private uni? of course, they have no choice dude, because you jokers have taken up the quota.. so instead of loitering and lepaking in the streets like malay youths, the non-malay parents have to work harder to send the kids to private uni at a higher cost...
but for malay youth, they resort to drug taking , incest, and doing nothing because you need crutches to help you get around..
dude, you are screwed up in your mind... i wanna puke and worse of all i know you ... you are sick man...
Quote: PH Chin
"" The violence has come, and it will not have been of my doing...Akhramsyah "
May be you're not directly involved but you're guilty of instigation.
Well the final judgement will be known when you meet your Creator, the Judge of all judges.
May 'Allah" bless you !"
Well said, PH, well said.
Akhramsyah,
I only agree on one part of your piece - that one reaps what he sows.
If you sow discord, you reap discord. The attacks on churches did little to discourage, divide, or intimidate Christians. On the contrary, you see the converse happening. Who are the ones reaping discord? Come on, tell us.
I hold nothing against you or anyone else who have resorted to violence or its instigation. But I, along with many others, will not stand for such immature actions. The only thing that I can do, I will do - pray for people like you to one day see the truth. God Bless.
Quote: mohd muzamir
"A Malay bible for a supposedly Malay Christians/prospects should use a Malay translation of God, which is Tuhan."
Have you heard? Tuhan and Allah may sound like equivalents, but the difference is like night and day.
Éruadan Ïndïlwèn said ... "Have you heard? Tuhan and Allah may sound like equivalents, but the difference is like night and day."
To which Christians bro?
The vaticans? Those in UK and US? The whole of South America? The Philiphines? Europe? Russia? OZ and NZ?
If you notice, these countries have something in common i.e. the majority of their citizens are Christians. Right?
Do they call their God Allah?
So, why do you guys want it to be different here? Can you not call your God as what those Christians above call their God?
i believe allah is almighty..
only some faction of his IGNORANT and STUPID followers will say or do something like this! when this stupid author dies...he will see the truth. allah will sent him to hell for his stupidity and not following his command! hope u see allah soon!! im a buddhist myself. but i believe allah or jesus or any other religion will want to see human fighting each other to some called 'protect' them! extremist and racist! rod in hell!!
Your disclaimer says:
"This blog carries the personal views of Akhramsyah Muammar Ubaidah Sanusi (A M Ubaidah S) and does not represent the views, principles or actions of any other company, organisation, entity or individual owned, employing or that has employed, affiliated or linked to A M Ubaidah S at any time.
The views expressed are not intended to sow malice, discord, disharmony or violent or criminal acts by any individual, entity, organisation or company upon another and A M Ubaidah S disavows knowledge or culpability of any such acts or claims on such acts in any way related to the views and opinions expressed in this blog."
BUT you said:
"Malays may be lobbing molotov cocktails at all churches indiscriminately, but this is only fair" - What a contradiction! You such an unstable, shit stirrer. People like you are why Malaysia is the way it is. 1Malaysia, my arse!!
You are a certified idiot. You may collect your certificate anytime you want.
Your ability to write means that you do have adequate education but your understanding of Malaysia situation proved that you lived in a different Malaysia. On second though, may be you purposely do it this way with ulterior motive.
Malays are still dissatisfied with their reduced quotas at local universities, whilst non-Malays in their quest for 'equality' remain uninterested in the reasons why Malays need them. MOST MALAY STUDENTS HAVE NO-WHERE ELSE TO GO OTHER THAN PUBLIC UNIVERSITIES WHILST NON-MALAYS CAN GO PRIVATE!
I suppose this is based on your assumption that all non-malays are wealthy? what about ones who have the talent but cannot afford to go private? Why should the basic rights of education be denied or restricted for non-malays? Are we not children of Malaysia as well? We are born of Malaysia, Malaysian by birth and should be by right as well. You claim to be educated, but I see even time spent overseas have done you no good.
How does this guy know that he will get the 72 virgins and 28 boys when he goes to heaven. Who from heaven told him this.. did god send an email, fax or sms to this ass hole or for that matter all the suicide killers!!
srsly, is there any other card that you can play than race? you are repeating what has been said before, without no fresh input. and you just wouldn't listen, would you?
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