Monday, June 23, 2008

Unjust RM 1.5 Million Ex-Gratia Payment To Ex-Justices

I was at a forum in Teluk Intan on Sunday where at long last, an MP revealed what he understood to be the amount awarded as Ex-Gratia payment to the Tun Salleh Abas and his chums. RM1.5 MILLION EACH!

Why RM 1.5 Million to these ex-justices? At a time when the government is cutting back on spending, affecting us the rakyat, why give these ex-judges such high ex-gratia payments when:
  1. The case that led to their dismissal has not been properly over-turned in court.
  2. Those that were dismissed actually still received their pensions, out of kindness of the ex-PM.
  3. Now I hear that some of those who didn't even get dismissed are getting this ex-gratia payment! For what!

When you then see a couple of these unjustly ex-gratia-ed ex-judges attacking Tun Dr M as part of Pak Lah's defence, one wonders... is the ex-gratia payment really a RM 1.5 Million BRIBE? Wonder on whilst mulling over this observation by the son of arwah Tan Sri Wan Adnan, a judge with real integrity.

19 comments:

kluangman said...

Biarkan, kita tunggu PM baru mengambilalih kerajaan dan kita dakwa mereka semula, memberi dan menerima rausah

ZAIENAL said...
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A M Ubaidah S said...

Terima kasih saudara Zaienal kerana sudi memaki, memfitnah dan mencaci Ayah saya bersama ramai lagi manusia di blog ini. Malangnya, komen saudara berlari dari topik ini, maka harus dipadam.

Diharap saudara sudi mengulangi maki-caci dan fitnah saudara di posting saya yang lebih relevan atau di blog TS Sanusi sendiri di www.sanusijunid.blogspot.com

Akar umbi UMNO Damansara Utama said...

Salam,

The real Machiavellian politician, isn't he?

Regards,
UMNO D.U
http://umnodu.blogspot.com

ZAIENAL said...

YB TUAN BLOGGER

MAKI...

CUBA ANDA BACA BETUL2 KOMEN SAYA TU.ADAKAH ADA SAYA MAKI? PERKATAAN YANG BOLEH DIANGGAP MAKI ADALAH SUBJEKTIF (SAYA BOLEH BAGI CERAMAH
KEPADA ANDA TENTANG PERKARA INI KALAU ANDA MAHU)

CACI...

SAYA TAK TAHU NAK BODEK ATAU MENGAMPU. YANG SALAH DAN TAK BETUL, SAYA CAKAP TAK BETUL DAN SALAH. JANGAN LAH MENGANGGAP ITU MENCACI.

FITNAH...

ADAKAH ANDA SELIDIK TENTANG APA YG SAYA TULIS? BAGAIMANA ? DENGAN SIAPA ? TANYA TUN ?

ANDA MUNGKIN BELUM HIDUP LAGI MASA ITU ATAU MASIH ALAM BAYI.

APA YG SAYA TULIS TENTANG SANUSI JUNID ADALAH APA YANG SELURUH RAKYAT (TERUTAMANYA ORANG KEDAH) BERCAKAP,RASA, HADAPI,JELAS, NYATA DAN YANG PENTING NYA ADALAH PERKARA
YANG B E N A R .

JANGAN LAH KATA UMNO SEKARANG
HADAPI SINDRUM PENAFIAN DAN DALAM
MASA YANG SAMA ANDA TAK DAPAT MENERIMA KEBENARAN.

BLOGGER YANG MEMADAM KOMEN PEMBACA
ADALAH PENGECUT, OTAK KOLOT, TAK DAPAT TERIMA KEBENARAN. LEBIH BAIK
JADI PENULIS DIARI PERIBADI SAJA.

ZAIENAL said...
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Wan shamsudin said...

Salam Bro;

Bila dapat DUIT baru melalak.Seperti ANJING yang dapat TULANG, Melalak terus terusan.Ini mainan TOK ZAID KLATE untuk cari sokongan dan simpati bagi ORANG YG MEMERLUKANYA..SEmoga TOK ZAID melalak didalam tidurnya.

kluangman said...

a m ubaidah, terimalah kenyataan atas apa yang diluahkan zaienal, betul atau tidak, bukan saudara yang nilaikan.

Akhir kata, ini blog politik la beb, dan untuk jadi penulis dan pemilik blog politik, semua benda jadi hal peribadi...

Jangan cepat merajuk hati, jadilah anak acheh yang berani walaupun salah, di dalam blog, sanusi junid bukan ayah awak, dia ahli politik yang menjadi penilaian semua orang.

Siarkan semula tulisan yang dipadam. Jangan jadi koro.

ZAIENAL said...
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NGINAP SRENGENGE said...

Ikut hukum pemberi dan penerima rasuah akan dihumban ke neraka...nauzubillah.

A M Ubaidah S said...

Saudara Zaienal dan kluangman. Yang saya padam di sini memang konsisten dengan tindakan kelaziman saya. Saya ingin perbincangan yang berkait dengan topik, bukan omong kosong atau pintasan bicara yang langsung tidak berkait dengan usul.

Blog ini bukan blog politik semata-mata, tetapi blog yang berpautkan kepada isu yang ingin saya bangkitkan. Dan ikut suka sayalah kalau nak padam pun, samalah suka tidaknya bebudak pro-KJ nak padam tempat diorang. Kalau nak menilai berani dan telus tidaknya saya, bukan dari tindakan padam tak padam komen sesiapa pun.

Keberanian dan ketelusan saya harus dinilai dari intipati apa yang ditulis oleh saya, dan juga tindakan memastikan blog ini berwajah, supaya semua tahu saya yang menulis di sini! Saudara Zaienal... bila lagi nak berani sedikit saudara... Takkan berani dibalik tabir profil tak berwajah sahaja menempik... yang menegur kenalah mempraktik sama...

Saya akan padam lagi beberapa komen yang tak relevan di sini, tetapi akan mengekalkan 1-2 komen untuk menjadikan jawapan saya ini jelas hujung-pangkalnya.

Letting the time pass me by said...

Saya pun tak paham kenapa kerajaan bersungguh-sungguh nak bayar ex-gratia... Tapi terpulanglah kepada kerajaan...

Dalam kesusahan rakyat akibat kenaikan harga minyak, boleh pulak negara memperuntukkan sedikit saguhati kepada bekas hakim...

Bagi sesetengah manusia RM1.5juta itu sikit... cuma cukup untuk belanja sekali pergi ke Europe aje...

Tapi bagi sesetengah manusia, RM1.5juta tu boleh sara keluarga mereka sampai keanak cucu cicit.

Sekarang nie, kerajaan sudah melaksanakan dasar survival for the fittest.. susahla bagi golongan bawahan untuk hidup...

MyOhMy said...

This is another judge



The following is an article from Borneo Post regarding a ‘Boot Camp’. After reading the article, my views are:

1. The ‘Boot Camp’ really sounds like the BTN courses that me and my friends went through.

2. Judging from his responses to the activities conducted during the course, I would not promote such a person

3. We are definitely in need of a judicial review - from within the judiciary itself.

My comments are in brackets [ ]. The article in the Star is much shorter. This is a much better read.

http://www.theborneopost.com/?p=37424

Judge opens Pandora’s box
By Raymond Tan

Ian Chin details humiliation at boot camp to soften them to take orders of previous administration

SIBU: High Court Judge Datuk Ian Chin continued to make explosive disclosures in the Sarikei parliamentary election petition mention yesterday, exposing how judges sent to the boot camp were made to go through punishment and humiliation so that they would be softened to take orders for the benefit of the former administration.

Chin delivered a 16-page statement after the one he made on June 9 that astounded the nation. It was alleged that Tun Dr Mahathir Mohamad had exerted undue influence upon the judiciary to make it decide in the government’s favour.

Chin said he was sent to a boot camp for that.

In yesterday’s statement, Chin went on to reveal further details of what had happened in the camp.

Chin said for the participants, the objective was “to make us take orders and that is why apart from what I have said earlier in the last sitting, a junior officer was made our leader, from whom we have to take orders, and one Sessions Court judge who disagreed with that was made to publicly apologise on a podium to his junior officer leader”.

[I have been through this before I went to UK. It is supposed to teach us about humility and the marking of a good leader starts with being a good follower. We are all human after all and I would like another human to judge me, to know and see me as a human when being judged. this is really a trivial matter. ]

Chin added that “another method was to chisel away the view we held of how independent we should be in our job as High Court judges, and this they did by punishing or humiliating a High Court judge by making him carry a brick all the time after he broke the egg which each of us must carry wherever we went, including marching.”

[I went through this one too,and I guess a whole load of other leadership participants. It is supposed to teach you to be responsible and bear the consequence of our action or negligence]

Incidentally, he said: “You surrendered your wallet, your air ticket and handphone when you checked into the camp, and you cannot go anywhere, as it is in an isolated place, and you cannot leave for anywhere, as there is no transport.

“You are totally cut off from the outside world, with no newspapers or television.”

[Common practice in any motivational courses. Why do you need your wallet when everything is taken care of, the food, lodging etc. I would welcome such break]

He said only selected news were conveyed to them then for the purpose of sampling reaction, like the news that a certain party had won a by-election, which elicited some applause from some young officers.

He said two of the judges left, one because of illness and the other because of his wife’s illness.

“Everyone who was not otherwise sick had to remain, and we all did save for the duo, with each given a certificate after the end of the stay.”

During the mention which started at 4pm, Chin started by saying he had prepared in advance yesterday’s statement and had emailed a copy each to the lawyers.

“In case I meet with an accidental death, both counsels have agreed that this statement would be regarded as having been pronounced in court,” he said.

Chin also mentioned in his statement about him being condemned for his June 9 statement with allegations made that he took the opportunity to speak up because he thought Dr Mahathir was responsible for blocking his promotion.

He went on to say that he had never wanted such a promotion, as it was his wish and that of his wife to return to Sabah so that they could be with their children.

He also mentioned about the alleged veiled threat by Dr Mahathir that he disclosed in his June 9 statement. He then went on to talk of the events in the boot camp.

Chin ended by saying that he had never wanted a promotion, “not before, now or in the future, nor any appointment after his retirement”.

“What do I get out of all this, knowing very well that I will be the target for vilification? It is this: I must be able to sleep well after I retire, knowing that I have done all I can, like all the crucified judges before me, to tell Malaysians the danger they are in, regarding the state of the judiciary.”

-end of report -

Honestly, if I have a subordinate and I sent him to a BTN course like the above and he comes back whining the same - Promoting such a person in the near future would be the last thing on my mind.

whackthembugger said...

KARUT……..that’s all the ex-gratia payments are about, abusing the rakyat’s money and resources!

Zaid had made one of his biggest blunders when he exhumed the Tun Salleh case, all in the name of judiciary reform. When the truth came out about the other side of Tun Salleh’s character, the prominent role played by the Agong then and the refusal by the AG to apologize on the matter, suddenly Zaid must have realized what a fool he made of himself and PM. A fool as he is, he dared not acknowledge that he could have been wrong in this exhumation and so he proceeded with his gesture on the ex-gratia payment to appease a tiny section of the population namely the Malaysian Bar Council, the Opposition leaders and human rights activists and of course within PM’s inner circle. The money from the ex-gratia did not come from his pocket, so he doesn’t give a damn so long he got the publicity. Zaid refused to realize that the bulk of the Silent Majority could see his true colors, rather he wish to live in his own world of fantasy.

Zaid has done too much SPIN, wasting the rakyat’s resources and endangering the rakyat’s future with his foolish populist cum liberal legal reforms especially at this point in time of grave political and economic uncertainties. The most honorable act for him is to reimburse from his own pocket all payments made relating to the ex-gratia payment and leave the cabinet soonest.

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azlina said...

RM1.5 mill ex-gratia- agaknya government sekarang terlebih ambil duit dari rakyat untuk bagi ke those people who can afford to have a starbuck coffee everyday. sedangkan yang masih merana rakyat yang nak makan roti canai pon dok pikiaq 10 kali bila semua harga barang dah naik

A M Ubaidah S said...

Sorry X, appreciate the inclusion on the poll, but your posting is off-topic... fair is fair...

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