Now the question has raised its ugly head again. However, whilst others may be unhappy or indeed disgusted that another charge of sodomy against Anwar has arisen, I am actually glad, as this is the opportunity for the nation to fully address this issue, rather than leaving it in our sub-conscious or isolated as the butt of many jokes at UMNO events.
As with other questions I have posed on Anwar's links to Zionists and his lack of real past achievement, this question is not just of intellectual interest in these days of troubled leadership in the country. This question is critical as Anwar remains a contender from Prime Ministership, hence Malaysians need to ask whether even a suspected Sodomite is an acceptable leader to us.
Before we go any further in contemplation, lets be clear here that in both the late 90's case and the more present case, Anwar is accused of Sodomy, in this context, taken from Wiki:
the legal use of the term "sodomy" is restricted to rape cases where an act such as anal penetration has taken place
This is in line with the dissenting view of the highly respected justice Tan Sri Dato' Siti Norma Binti Yaakob during Anwar's appeal, that Anwar's conviction was of a form of RAPE, hence the technicalities appealed against should not be of primary concern. I believe even homosexuals who understand this would find the prospect of such a character in power a concern, no?
Let us also now remind ourselves that as far as the court is concerned, Anwar was involved in homosexual activities in the late 90's. The reason he was released was on the issue of the specific incident of homosexual rape/sodomy, and I quote the majority view of the appeal judges, who included the current Chief Judge:
“even though reading the appeal record, we find evidence to confirm that the appellants were involved in homosexual activities”
So lets just accept that Anwar is bi-sexual. The issue at hand is RAPE, admittedly of a more deviant kind, but made worse by being RAPE, which is a most violent of violations! So, would his sympathisers be so forgiving if Anwar is being accussed of raping a woman? What about your aunty? Your mother? Sister? Daughter? What if he raped your son?
I hence agree with many that the primary issue at hand is that of law and justice. Let us not forget that the news broke from a hospital where the alleged victim had to be admitted, I suppose for treatment of his injuries? He is still an alleaged victim, and his loved ones victims by relation, so please treat him with the dignity of a victim, rather than cast doubt just because of politics.
This 'coffee boy' is a young Malaysian with a family and budding aspirations for leadership, and needs the same sympathy, if not more, from his fellow citizens as a certain foreign 'interpreter'. Let's not let 'taksub' result in the immediate forgiveness to his alleged rapist who has since fled the scene to safety... usually, it is the guilty who runs and hides... Lets discuss Anwar...
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This is a case of sodomy charges involving Muslims and therefore I would prefer to view the impeding judgment of the crime from the perspective of Islamic law and if consequently found guilty, can the punishment be in the form of death by stone throwing or sula?
Normally such crimes are committed in private, thus inability to bring forth adequate witnesses as required by Islamic law. But we can never know- can SDs in the form of the infamous RPK SD be accepted in Islamic law; that someone heard from a reliable source that DSAI did indeed commit such crimes at the Damansara condo? I doubt very much but people can try!
I disagree with you that DSAI’s a suspected sodomite; he has already been convicted of such crime once and as big dog says “old habits die hard”. History has shown many astute leaders have queer habits, homo sexuality being a common one, so nothing uncommon except it’s a crime in this country. I believe there are still evidences in the Sodomy Part 1 not being given much focus such as follows as extracted from Matthias Chang’s blog
The majority decision of the Federal Court on September 2, 2004 made a finding that:
The testimonies of one Dr. Mohd Fadzil and one Tun Haniff and the conduct of the first Appellant (ie Anwar) confirmed the appellants’ involvement in homosexual activities. However such evidence did not corroborate Azizan’s story that the appellants sodomized him on the date, time and place specified in the charge.”
Additionally, the majority also held:
“even though reading the appeal record, we find evidence to confirm that the appellants were involved in homosexual activities and we are more inclined to believe that the alleged incident at Tivoli Villa did happen, sometime, this court, as a court of law, may only convict the appellants if the prosecution has successfully proved that the alleged offenses as stated in the charges, beyond reasonable doubt.”
What are these evidences? Not many are aware of the true nature of these evidences; perhaps they were too carnal, too lewd to be shown in public to protect DSAI’s image. When the time when Sodomy Part 1 originally came out, I was surprised at the number of high profile and respectful people who confirmed, had seen or was aware and totally convinced of the crimes committed by DSAI. It’s timely that the Sodomy Part 1 be re-opened “with no bars held” ; if Zaid Ibrahim had done so for the Tun Salleh Abas case, why not Sodomy Part 1.
The Malaysian Insider has already put it, “A different Malaysia 10 years on” “Today, Opposition politicians have the stature and command the respect of a significant number of Malaysians. They have the numbers and can send the country into paralysis with demonstrations if they choose to do so” my question is - What are they, the Opposition leaders, waiting for? Please do so with their pants down too even if they demonstrate and when prove wrong, they should continue walking without their pants.
What do you think now of SIL helping DSAI by personally handing over DSAI’s passport, that also after SIL failed to win DSAI’s daughter’s hand? With Ezam’s entry into UMNO now accepted, don’t you think something very slimy going on in the formula DSAI + EZAM + SIL = ZAID + BAR COUNCIL (REFORM AGENDA) = FOREIGN TURKISH AGENTS IN GE 12 = BACK DOOR POLITICS = TO BE PM @ 40 = MALAYSIAN INSIDER?
The SIL and DSAI characters really shirk!!!
So mate, I know my comment is a little long but the article in Malaysian Insider made me loose my cool.
I did asked you about this matter that evening...and the issue blasted on that late evening...isn't it? Is it a co-incident? hehhehhe....anyway...I got your answer already bro...hehhe...keep up the goodwork...Malaysian has to know about this matter...big matter! So they will know the true colour of Anwar! Keep on digging...!!!
Kita menjangkakan atau mengharapkan satu tindakan bijaksana anwar dalam cubaannya mengambilaih kerajaan. Sesuatu yang boleh dibanggakan.
Dalam masa yang sama kita ingin melihat kepetahan dan kehebatan kerajaan sekarang dalam bertindak mematahkan cubaan anwar.
Malangnya kita disajikan dengan skrip dan plot yang lemah dan memualkan dari kedua dua pihak.
Soal kebenaran ??? Sejak bila politik di Malaysia memberi keutamaan kepada kebenaran...
Salam Tuan Rumah,
Thank you for your explanation on the meaning of sodomy.
Gee...ngerinya..I cant help but to imagine...This is worse than the usual rape cases which are already soo insane!!
Apa nak jadi ni??
Staying clear of semantics Akram (breaking tradition),since you have told me enough times on what you think of Anwar, do you think there are nefarious characters in Umno engineering this play?
I have a tendency to believe that this guy is acting alone. Something is missing. additional police reports, actors and extras, testimonial, mattresses, supporting government officials statement etc.
This police report, when it goes to court, will probably got thrown out, perhaps due to lack of evidence? If there's conspiracy, a more credible compilation of allegations would certainly surfaced to ensure things won't f#@k-up in court. There's already a precedent, mind you.
And to suddenly claim a death threat is pathetic measure for him to come up with.
The government cannot afford another outrage, coz if such threat took place, the government will definitely go down as they are the only suspect.
ANWAR THE GREAT BOLLYWOOD ACTOR!
One interesting outcome from this latest 'bontot' event is the cleverness of Anwar in diverting the criminal case against him. Anwar is known for his dramatisation of events, if he wants something or trying to get out of the mud.
Remember the Baling case during his student days? Or the last trial - remember his arsenic poisoning? Remember his complaint about his back pain? Remember his dog collar always stuck on his neck when he went to courts? Remember he moved about on wheel chair? Now no back pain or neck pain. So fast got cured!
Now the truth has come out, he went to the Turkish Embassy uninvited said the Turkish Ambassador. He just deposited himself there to get international attention. He got many friends outside Malaysia, who will believe him and will raise their concerns. That's what Anwar wants.
By the way, who wants to kill him? if that is the case, he has been assassinated a long time ago! Even before the opposition could win many state governments in the last elections. Anwar is best described as the great Hindustani or Bollywood actor. Pity his wife Azizah, she has to defend Anwar because he is her husband although she knows Anwar inside out.
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ASTAGFIRULLAH
ASTAGFIRULLAH.
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Bro, I put it this way.. If your dad (60 yrs old ++ try to sodom a guy age 23 years old).. do you think that guy give way easily so that your dad can easily sodom that young guy?.. even if you your self I believed will "karate" OR "kick" that animal isn't it?.. so simply give way aarr?.. common la.. 60 years old guy so energatic aarr?.. minum kopi Jantan kot!
eh cherrie.. have u seen the guy picture? he looks so faq.. those guys tat during hostel days get sodomise in their dom.. maybe its a case of "Cinta Tak Berbalas".. maybe DSAI did a 1 nite stand.. who knows wats the truth.. did it really happen? only god knows..
MUSTAHIL
MUSTAHIL
TAK MUNASABAH
TAK MUNASERAWAK
TAKKAN PEJUANG KEMANUSIAAN
PM IN THE WAITING
SEORANG NEGARAWAN
PEMIMPIN BELIA TERULUNG
SEORANG ULAMAK
SEORANG PEMIMPIN ABIM
NAK MAIN BONTOT, DOSA TU
SEORANG PEJUANG MELAYU
TAKKAN MUNASABAH NAK HAPUSKAN DEB
SEORANG PEJUANG ISLAMMMIAAAAAH
NAK MAIN BONTOT?
MUSTAHIL
MELAINKAN MEMANG ALLAH JADIKAN DIA SEAIB AIB MANUSIA
KERANA MUNAFIIIIIIIK
DAN KERANA DIA PEJUANG ISLAM DIA AKAN GUNA HUKUM ISLAM
MANA 4 SAKSI??
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SURUH DIA SUMPAH
DIA BUAT DIBATU PAHAT DULU
SAYA SUMPAH DIA KATA
SUMPAH APA? DIA TAK KATAPUN
TAPI KALAU DIA DULU MEMANG SUMPAH BOHONG, MEMANG DITAKDIRKAN ALLAH DIA NAK AIBKAN HIDUP DIA SENDIRI
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Cherrie said...
Bro, I put it this way.. If your dad (60 yrs old ++ try to sodom a guy age 23 years old).. do you think that guy give way easily so that your dad can easily sodom that young guy?.. even if you your self I believed will "karate" OR "kick" that animal isn't it?.. so simply give way aarr?.. common la.. 60 years old guy so energatic aarr?.. minum kopi Jantan kot!
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Tepukan memerlukan dua tapak tangan untuk melakukannya. Materialistik menjadi umpan dalam dua peristiwa tersebut. ( MELIWAT dan MELAPORKAN )
Konspirasi adalah alat untuk mencapai impian.
Konspiratornya mendapat balik 'keuntungan' sebagai balasan umpannya.
Siapakah PIHAK Yang paling Untung atas peristiwa ini ? = KONSPIRATOR
Apalah Anwar ni cakap bergegar sampai Arab pun termenung dengar.. Berarak sana sini. Lautan api sanggup direnangi. lawan tetap lawan.
Bila sebut aje liwat... lintang pukang lari... baru sebut aje, belum ada apa-apa pun...'ehem liwat'.. terus pergi Turki... sensitif betuuuuuuuul bila sebut liwat...... ish! ish! ish!
Anyway kalau dia biseksual pun... ikutlah cara ajaran PAS...jangan serang peribadiiiii...
Hi guys,
I quote this from renovation blogged by stephendoss concerning Anwar’s sodomy case issued previously....check it out..
“FOR THE BENEFIT OF READERS, I HAVE EXTRACTED FROM THE PAST THE JUDGMENT BY THE FEDERAL COURT OF MALAYSIA, ANWAR’S APPEAL AGAINST HIS CONVICTION ON SODOMY. THE FOLLOWING IS A MAJORITY DECISION REACHED BY THE JUDGES SITTING IN THE FEDERAL COURT ON THE ANWAR IBRAHIM APPEAL AGAINST HIS CONVICTION ON SODOMY.
PLEASE NOTE AND READ CAREFULLY THE VERDICT, THAT ALTHOUGH THE JUDGES HAD NO DOUBT IN THEIR MINDS THAT THE ACT OF SODOMY BY ANWAR IBRAHIM HAD TAKEN PLACE, BUT TO RELY SOLELY ON AZIZAN’S EVIDENCE WOULD BE UNSAFE FOR THE PURPOSES OF UPHOLDING THE JUDGEMENT.
SO DID THE ACT OF SODOMY TAKE PLACE ? YES ACCORDING TO THE JUDGES. BUT DUE TO A TECHNICALITY THEY HAVE NO CHOICE BUT TO DISMISS THE CASE.
DALAM MAHKAMAH PERSEKUTUAN MALAYSIA
(BIDANG KUASA RAYUAN)
RAYUAN JENAYAH NO: 05-6-2003 (W)
ANTARA
DATO’ SERI ANWAR BIN IBRAHIM … PERAYU
DAN
PENDAKWA RAYA … RESPONDEN
RAYUAN JENAYAH NO. 05-7-2003 (W)
SUKMA DARMAWAN SASMITAAT MADJA … PERAYU
DAN
PENDAKWA RAYA … RESPONDEN
CORAM:
ABDUL HAMID MOHAMAD F.C.J.
RAHMAH HUSSAIN F.C.J.
TENGKU BAHARUDIN SHAH TENGKU MAHMUD J.C.A.
MAJORITY JUDGMENT OF
ABDUL HAMID MOHAMAD F.C.J.
AND TENGKU BAHARUDIN SHAH TENGKU MAHMUD J.C.A.
In this judgment, Dato’ Seri Anwar bin Ibrahim will be referred to as “the first appellant” and Sukma Darmawan Sasmitaat Madja will be referred to as “the second appellant”.
The first appellant was charged with an offence punishable under section 377B of the Penal Code.
The second appellant was charged with two offences. The first charge is for abetting the first appellant in the commission of the offence with which the first appellant was charged. The second charge is similar to the charge against the first appellant i.e. under section 377B of the Penal Code.
Both the appellants were tried jointly. The first appellant was convicted and sentenced to nine years imprisonment commencing from the expiry of the sentence he was then serving in the first trial. High Court Kuala Lumpur Criminal Trial No. 45-48-1998 (1999)2 M.L.J. 1 (H.C), (2002)2 M.L.J. 486 (C.A.) and (2002) 3 M.L.J. 193 (F.C.)). The second appellant was convicted on both charges and sentenced to six years imprisonment and two strokes for each charge with the sentences of imprisonment to run concurrently. For the judgment of the High Court in the present case, see (2001) 3 M.L.J. 193.
They appealed to the Court of Appeal. Their appeals were dismissed – see (2004) 1 M.L.J. 177.
They appealed to this court and this is the majority judgment of this court.
Section 87(3) of the Courts of Judicature Act 1964 (“CJA 1964”) provides that a criminal appeal to this court “may lie on a question of fact or a question of law or on a question of mixed fact and law.” The position is the same as in the case of the Court of Appeal hearing an appeal from a trial in the High Court as in this case – see section 50(3) CJA 1964.
To summarise our judgment, even though reading the appeal record, we find evidence to confirm that the appellants were involved in homosexual activities and we are more inclined to believe that the alleged incident at Tivoli Villa did happen, sometime, this court, as a court of law, may only convict the appellants if the prosecution has successfully proved the alleged offences as stated in the charges, beyond reasonable doubt, on admissible evidence and in accordance with established principles of law. We may be convinced in our minds of the guilt or innocence of the appellants but our decision must only be based on the evidence adduced and nothing else.”
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